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The French Defense is no longer playable.

Let's remain polite. All you did was make a blog post with a silly clickbait title.

My personal winrate doesn't make this less silly.

Let's remain polite. All you did was make a blog post with a silly clickbait title. My personal winrate doesn't make this less silly.

@booman342 said in #11:

Let's remain polite. All you did was make a blog post with a silly clickbait title.

My personal winrate doesn't make this less silly.

My post isn't clickbait.
This first analysis and understanding of the french (but also the carokann, don't worry a post is coming) comes from Vladislav Tkachiev who analysed and explained the problems of openings allowing e5 on the third move. I enjoyed and analysed his work, now I added some new infos which were "lacking" in his first work.

You don't understand what clickbait means and I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even think about what was written in the blog.
This post is live only for 10minutes and you just say "nah it's clickbait" without even watching the game that I added and I am pretty sure that you did not look at the analysis on youtube.

Once again, what are you aiming for ?

@booman342 said in #11: > Let's remain polite. All you did was make a blog post with a silly clickbait title. > > My personal winrate doesn't make this less silly. My post isn't clickbait. This first analysis and understanding of the french (but also the carokann, don't worry a post is coming) comes from Vladislav Tkachiev who analysed and explained the problems of openings allowing e5 on the third move. I enjoyed and analysed his work, now I added some new infos which were "lacking" in his first work. You don't understand what clickbait means and I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even think about what was written in the blog. This post is live only for 10minutes and you just say "nah it's clickbait" without even watching the game that I added and I am pretty sure that you did not look at the analysis on youtube. Once again, what are you aiming for ?

I can see this is devolving. Take care.

I can see this is devolving. Take care.

This line is just hard to play without good prep or knowledge, im playing french. Twice i got bad position in this line, i learnt it and i dont think its that bad objectively. Practically its good and if u havent games there its perfect. It isnt canceling french by no means if opponent knows best moves. If it would be so good nc3 wouldnt be mainline in french.

This line is just hard to play without good prep or knowledge, im playing french. Twice i got bad position in this line, i learnt it and i dont think its that bad objectively. Practically its good and if u havent games there its perfect. It isnt canceling french by no means if opponent knows best moves. If it would be so good nc3 wouldnt be mainline in french.

@NINDJAxx8 said in #14:

Just play Najdorf ;)
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@NINDJAxx8 said in #14: > Just play Najdorf ;) 0

Just play Catalan
Bishop on g2 game over ;)

Just play Catalan Bishop on g2 game over ;)

@loristavernier said in #9:

I can't believe what I just saw.
I also explained in the video why the french isn't playable and all my arguments are here.
Read that and learn.
Let's play it, you will be white, i believe your blog is total absurd, you just showed good game played by mvl which is top 10 against ponkratov which is weaker and you do not show games where black wins

@loristavernier said in #9: > I can't believe what I just saw. > I also explained in the video why the french isn't playable and all my arguments are here. > Read that and learn. Let's play it, you will be white, i believe your blog is total absurd, you just showed good game played by mvl which is top 10 against ponkratov which is weaker and you do not show games where black wins

@Interesting_choice said in #17:

Let's play it, you will be white, i believe your blog is total absurd, you just showed good game played by mvl which is top 10 against ponkratov which is weaker and you do not show games where black wins
facts

@Interesting_choice said in #17: > Let's play it, you will be white, i believe your blog is total absurd, you just showed good game played by mvl which is top 10 against ponkratov which is weaker and you do not show games where black wins facts

So either you claim it's unplayable objectively or practically.

Ok objectively we can forget it because it's known to be equal with white has enough for a pawn if black keeps it.

Practically: Yes, the line is difficult. I play it sometimes online and don't like the resulting positions, so in my tournament repertoire I move-order against it. I don't like the line, many other french players don't like the line, it's dificult to play. But unplayable no, and actual french experts score ok in this too.

Claiming "practically unplayable" and showing a game with +100 elo difference is a bit whack. If that line is practically unplayable, where are the -100 elo difference games where weaker players smash stronger players because it's so unplayable? Suddenly not so much there anymore.

By the way, in the game you send, black is seriously better after 15. ..Nxd4. He miscalculated the important idea 15. ..Nxd4 16. Nf6+ Bxf6 17. exf6 h3! 18. Qh5 Rg8 19. Qxh3 e5, after which white would be just busted. White can pull the emergency breaks but doesn't have enough to show for the missing d-pawn. Is black missing the resource how to take over initiative more proof of "the position is unplayable" or "the stronger player won this game"?

So either you claim it's unplayable objectively or practically. Ok objectively we can forget it because it's known to be equal with white has enough for a pawn if black keeps it. Practically: Yes, the line is difficult. I play it sometimes online and don't like the resulting positions, so in my tournament repertoire I move-order against it. I don't like the line, many other french players don't like the line, it's dificult to play. But unplayable no, and actual french experts score ok in this too. Claiming "practically unplayable" and showing a game with +100 elo difference is a bit whack. If that line is practically unplayable, where are the -100 elo difference games where weaker players smash stronger players because it's so unplayable? Suddenly not so much there anymore. By the way, in the game you send, black is seriously better after 15. ..Nxd4. He miscalculated the important idea 15. ..Nxd4 16. Nf6+ Bxf6 17. exf6 h3! 18. Qh5 Rg8 19. Qxh3 e5, after which white would be just busted. White can pull the emergency breaks but doesn't have enough to show for the missing d-pawn. Is black missing the resource how to take over initiative more proof of "the position is unplayable" or "the stronger player won this game"?

@NINDJAxx8 said in #14:

This line is just hard to play without good prep or knowledge, im playing french. Twice i got bad position in this line, i learnt it and i dont think its that bad objectively. Practically its good and if u havent games there its perfect. It isnt canceling french by no means if opponent knows best moves. If it would be so good nc3 wouldnt be mainline in french.

In practice, the "mainline" became something personal when the engine started to show their strenghts in the opening@hairbeRt said in #19:

So either you claim it's unplayable objectively or practically.

Ok objectively we can forget it because it's known to be equal with white has enough for a pawn if black keeps it.

Practically: Yes, the line is difficult. I play it sometimes online and don't like the resulting positions, so in my tournament repertoire I move-order against it. I don't like the line, many other french players don't like the line, it's dificult to play. But unplayable no, and actual french experts score ok in this too.

Claiming "practically unplayable" and showing a game with +100 elo difference is a bit whack. If that line is practically unplayable, where are the -100 elo difference games where weaker players smash stronger players because it's so unplayable? Suddenly not so much there anymore.

By the way, in the game you send, black is seriously better after 15. ..Nxd4. He miscalculated the important idea 15. ..Nxd4 16. Nf6+ Bxf6 17. exf6 h3! 18. Qh5 Rg8 19. Qxh3 e5, after which white would be just busted. White can pull the emergency breaks but doesn't have enough to show for the missing d-pawn. Is black missing the resource how to take over initiative more proof of "the position is unplayable" or "the stronger player won this game"?

That's the point, he was better after playing logical moves in the opening based on the plan of sacrificing the d4 pawn. Now that he blundered around move 16-20 don't change the value of the opening.

@NINDJAxx8 said in #14: > This line is just hard to play without good prep or knowledge, im playing french. Twice i got bad position in this line, i learnt it and i dont think its that bad objectively. Practically its good and if u havent games there its perfect. It isnt canceling french by no means if opponent knows best moves. If it would be so good nc3 wouldnt be mainline in french. In practice, the "mainline" became something personal when the engine started to show their strenghts in the opening@hairbeRt said in #19: > So either you claim it's unplayable objectively or practically. > > Ok objectively we can forget it because it's known to be equal with white has enough for a pawn if black keeps it. > > Practically: Yes, the line is difficult. I play it sometimes online and don't like the resulting positions, so in my tournament repertoire I move-order against it. I don't like the line, many other french players don't like the line, it's dificult to play. But unplayable no, and actual french experts score ok in this too. > > Claiming "practically unplayable" and showing a game with +100 elo difference is a bit whack. If that line is practically unplayable, where are the -100 elo difference games where weaker players smash stronger players because it's so unplayable? Suddenly not so much there anymore. > > By the way, in the game you send, black is seriously better after 15. ..Nxd4. He miscalculated the important idea 15. ..Nxd4 16. Nf6+ Bxf6 17. exf6 h3! 18. Qh5 Rg8 19. Qxh3 e5, after which white would be just busted. White can pull the emergency breaks but doesn't have enough to show for the missing d-pawn. Is black missing the resource how to take over initiative more proof of "the position is unplayable" or "the stronger player won this game"? That's the point, he was better after playing logical moves in the opening based on the plan of sacrificing the d4 pawn. Now that he blundered around move 16-20 don't change the value of the opening.

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